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11/22/2007

Yilishen - 忠实转帖，不予评论。

China: Bankrupt ant farmers prepare to protest

Shenyang was mobbed today with furious ex-ant farmers, former employees of Yilishen, a media darling and one of China's most well-known brands in the health supplement market, as the company has just closed, taking the huge amounts its peasant-class employees had invested with it. The city's ant farming industry is no stranger to controversy, and neither is the company. Blog posts on the subject were quickly deleted, including most of the ones below, but a larger mass action remains scheduled for November 21.

[Nov. 22 update (futher updates below): video is trickling out, and bloggers are rushing to save it before it gets deleted like this 56.com clip which was posted at 11am today and received 37 pages of comments before it was taken down just after 3pm. Here's one from Ku6 user Muxiwen:]

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	Rwanwrote: 贴在评论里，是防track么？ Nov. 23
	zpzwrote: The Free China blogger at MSN Live Spaces posted some photos just before noon today: The Aboluowang blogger has added a few others: And even more can be found, for now, at the Yilishen8 blog hosted by NetEase: Update, Nov. 22: 最近消息：新纪录沈阳万人抗议“蚁力神”欺诈包围省府中国速度蚁力神到底怎么了蚁力神王奉友是否被抓的最新消息蚁力神倒塌，沈阳蚁农暴动一个天大的赌局该收场了蚁力神的事情蚁力神功能性灭绝谁封谁知道赵本山葛优，蚂蚁上树搜集关于沈阳事件的现场图片文字 Nov. 22
	zpzwrote: : Update: The video above has been taken down, but there are more. This video from Youku user Angel Bu lists a QQ group for ant farmers to discuss their plight in the comments, as do videos put up by user kefe1: Update, Nov. 21, 3pm: MSN Live Spaces blogger YoungDan68 writes this afternoon of trying last night to take the baby home for a diaper change and finding his road completely shut off and himself remains unable to return home for the moment. Also this afternoon are several photos taken yesterday and today from Ycul blogger Wen Xuan, who writes that ant farmers began gathering at the Yilishen HQ, which has since been taken over by the People's Armed Police, around 10 am on Nov. 19, creating a very chaotic scene wherein no-one it seems was hurt. Today, Nov.21, she writes, about 10,000 people had gathered at the provincial Party committee hall by around 1:30 pm: Update2, Nov. 21, 10pm: Same old whack-a-mole approach; information surrounding what's going on in Shenyang keeps getting deleted at a rate just a little bit faster than bloggers are able to spread it around(forgot to take into account that Bullog is back, see links in Chinese below). Ycul's Wen Xuan (see above) is back with another post. She asks: 为什么会有这么多人陷入？这样一个显而易见的谎言为何会延续如此之长？敬请关注近期出版的成都传媒集团，先锋中国《调查》深度报道《蚁力神，150亿集资背后的疯狂！》 How could so many people get caught up in this? How could such an obvious lie propagate as long as it has? I'd ask you to check out the recently published investigative report from Vanguard China's “Investigation”, “Yilishen, the insanity behind the 15 billion raised!” put out by Chengdu Media Group. Some interesting information is being collected on the Beijing DVD bbs; among what can now been seen there is background to how Yilishen products ended up being banned in the USA, an explanation of how Yilishen outsources its bee-raising needs, and enough statistics to make a newspaper editor quit drinking coffee; a short example: 目前蚁力神养殖专业户的年发展速度已经超过40％，在册养殖专业户的数量为27 万户，平均每户投入资金4.2 万元，总金额上百亿元，涉及到的家庭人口100 万 Yilishen's cultivation professionals' annual rate of growth is at present over 40%, with over 270,000 ‘cultivation professionals' listed, with an average investment of 42,000 RMB each, for a total over over 10 billion RMB, affecting over 100,000 people. Nov. 22
	zpzwrote: 蚁力神走到今天是一个必然的结局.本人在蚁力神做过一年多的分公司经理,当时想不明白,为什么产品卖的不好,各个分公司都陪钱,而蚁力神还象没什么事一样,对外鼓吹大发展呢?后来明白了,是为了让辽宁城乡的人都对蚁力神放心,让他们掏腰包养蚂蚁.可是这种借来的高利贷钱迟早是要还的,蚁力神想到了去香港上市,可惜,”伟哥”事件又把这件事情毁了.如果2004年上市成功.能募集到14亿资金,蚁力神就可以从养蚂蚁集资的事情里脱离出来,只是,人算不如天算.这时候蚁力神已经没有退路,只能继续扩大养殖户,用后面人的钱还前面人的钱.本来这样的事情不太好做的长久,但是在蚁力神公司的大力运做下,在政府的默许和媒体的推波助澜下,在无知人们认为天上掉馅饼的情况下,蚁力神走到了今 It was inevitable that Yilishen would end up here today. I worked as a manager for Yilishen for a bit more than a year, and at the time I could just not figure out why the products sold so poorly; every branch office was in debt, but yet Yilishen seemed like everything was fine, boasting around of its strong earnings. Later on I realized, it was all to keep the people in Liaoning's urban and rural areas at ease about Yilishen, to keep them digging up money to farm more ants. But this kind of spending on high-interest loan has to be paid back sooner or later, and Yilishen even had plans to list on the Hong Kong market, but then the “Viagra” incident came along and ruined that. If they'd succeeded at listing on the market in 2004, Yilishen would've been granted a 1.4 billion RMB loan and been able to leave the problem of funding ant farming behind. Only, man cannot outwit fate, and by that time Yilishen was already unable to back out, could only continue expanding its numbers of farmers, using later buyer-ins' money to pay back original farmers. Normally something like this wouldn't work in the long-term, but with the Yilishen Co.'s efforts, the government's acquiescence, the media keeping the ball rolling, and ignorant people thinking a pie'd just fallen from the sky, Yilishen ended up where it is today. 很多人怨恨,埋怨,其实这一切都是你自己的无知造成的.当然政府和媒体也有责任,你又能把他们怎么样?只有自己提高警惕和认识才能少上当和不上当. 蚁力神也知道自己要做的是稳定人心,只要大家都认为他没事,蚁力神就会存在的长久些但是他们一定是数学学的不好,这是需要按几何方式有人加入才能维持下去的事实,是不可能实现的目标,今天终于停摆了.我为那些后来的加入者祈祷! Many people are spiteful and complaining, but actually in your ignorance you did all of this to yourselves. Of course the government and media have responsibility as well, but what are you going to do to them? Only raising your awareness will lessen your chances of or stop you from getting duped at all. Yilishen knew that it wanted to keep the feelings of the people stable; just as long as the people felt that nothing was wrong at Yilishen, and they could keep going like this on the long-term. But they mustn't have studied math very well, the reality was that they would have needed exponential growth to keep on going, and this was an unattainable target. Today it finally came to a halt. I pray for those who've just gotten in! Both alarming and inspiring is the wiki that someone has set up just to keep track of how the larger protest proceeds; an excerpt: 蚁力神要是破产政府就是罪魁祸首！一个经营了8年的公司那么多荣誉那么多光环！明明知道公司的存亡关系到上百万老百姓的死活，政府为什么不帮助蚁力神渡过难关！明明知道多少人家破人忙政府完全不顾我们死活！政府根本就不想扶植蚁力神！任其自生自灭，是政府喝了我们的血！现在还要我们的命！！！！！！今天打人的警察，我记下了他的警号115951 老爷们明天都带上白酒御寒到时候坐在省委门口边喝边研究喝多了就他妈的闹反正都到绝路了，有时间的明天都去，别再家等现成的了，都是我们自己的事情。没别的办法了.能看见我说的这句话的人都尽最大的能力去沈阳了,也就只剩下去沈阳的这条道了,如果说现在还在想着在家里等的话,那就都别想拿到钱了现在的情况我想大家都知道,现在就是不怕事闹大就怕事闹小,现在政府都把消息封闭了, If Yilishen goes bankrupt, then the government will have been an accomplice! For a company that's been in operation for eight years, so much honor, so many blessings! Clearly the company's survival is directly connected to whether several million people live or die, so why doesn't the government help Yilishen pull through?! It's evident how many families stand to be split with everything lost, but the government pays no attention to whether we live or die! The government never intended to support Yilishen! By allowing it to perish on its own, the government is drinking our blood! Now they want our lives too!!!!!! The cop that hit someone today, I got his badge number down, 115951. Dudes, bring your baijiu tomorrow to fight off the cold. When we get to the provincial Party committee building, we can sit and make plans. If we drink too much then we'll fucking rip, we're all in a corner anyhow. Whoever has time tomorrow, come down, don't just sit at home and wait, this is your problem too. There is no other option. Whoever sees what I'm saying here, do everything you can to get to Shenyang, coming to Shenyang is the only road we have left. If you're saying you just want to wait at home, don't bother thinking that you'll get your money back…I think everyone pretty much knows what the situation is now, that we're not afraid of making this too big…we're afraid of making it too small. Now the government has killed all the news… 40多天啦，相信大家都是在极度的紧张中度过的，我们担惊受怕这么多天现在还是在拖我们养护，我们决不能妥协拉，ｙｌｓ从不返钱开始就有政府在参与（因为媒体和网络都在封锁蚁力神的消息，所以只能是政府参与在这里才会出现这种情况），政府想让我们养护受到损失是不肯能的，我们大家一定要齐心协力把我们的血汗钱要回来，明天大家都要去，这个事情不搞大，不引起社会各界的关注，我们就什么都得不到拉，不能让政府不能让ｙｌｓ这么对待我们养护，群里有资料（大家多多收集）我们大家多向外界媒体，新闻评论，国外网站，各国大使馆，南方的一些新闻媒体等反映，特别是网络流量比较大的社区（猫扑，搜狐，新浪，中华网，中青网等等），我们大家有相机的，都摄像机的都拿着，把政府的丑恶嘴脸记录下来，我们大家一定要齐心，不要持观望态度，钱都没有啦，以后也过部下去啦，还怕什么呢，如果不还我们的血汗钱，奥运会就别想开啦！！！！！！！！ Forty days! I believe everyone has spent them in an extremely nervous state; we've been anxious for so many days already, and now they're still dragging us farmers along. We absolutely must not compromise; Yilishen never gives money back. From the beginning the government was involved (because the media and internet have all been blocking news about Yilishen, and it's only when the government is involved that this kind of situation can occur). The government wants us farmers to take the losses, this is out of the question. All of us must work together to get our hard-earned money back. Everyone has to come out tomorrow; if we don't make this big enough, if we don't draw enough attention from different parts of society, we don't get anything! We can't let the government not make Yilishen deal with us farmers; the information is in the [QQ?] group (everyone gather more). Everyone needs to let more outside media, news commentary, foreign websites and some news media in the south know about this, especially those big internet forums with heavy traffic (Mop, Sohu, Sina, ChinaNet, CYD, etc.). We all have cameras, video cameras, so bring them and record the government's ugly side. Everybody must work together, don't just sit on the fence and watch or we'll lose our money, and we'll have no way to go on! So what are you afraid of? If they don't give us back our hard-earned money, they better not even think of holding the Olympics!!!!!!!!!!! Videos posted on several Chinese video sharing websites show a talk Yilishen president Wang Fengyou gave recently under what appears to be heavy police protection; in the comments left below this video, one reader estimates 5,000-6,000 people showed up at the Liaoning province Party committee hall on November 20. Many comments now following that are death threats aimed at Wang timed for Nov. 21, when the first main protest is set to take place Nov. 22
	zpzwrote: Yilishen ant farmers surround the municipal and provincial Party committee building, showing their might! There were over ten thousand gathered, from Benxi, Liaoyang, Dalian, Anshan and other places. The provincial Party committee had already sent out large numbers of riot police, and the surrounding police forces have already moved in!!! Calmly is not how most people seem to have reacted. From an anonymous and unsympathetic poster with an alleged semi-insider's view, writing on the ChinaByte forum: 蚁力神终于TMD的倒闭了：蚁力神倒闭,养殖户血本无归! Yilishen finally f*****g closed down: farmers don't get any of their hard-earned money back! 坑害了多少农民阿。。。。。两年前我家就在养，周围邻居亲属都在养。。。。赵本山还在拍摄的流行连续剧《刘老根》里帮蚁力神做广告，这些全栽进去了。。。。 How many peasants got trapped into this…..? Two years ago my family was farming, and so were all the neighbors and relatives around us…. Zhao Benshan is still filming his popular sitcom Liu Laogen and using it to do ads for Yilishen… [Frequently seen on Chinese television] Nov. 22
	zpzwrote: Baidu blogger dayongcom also shares a conversation with a friend in an earlier post dated Nov. 16, ‘Risk, risk…': 今天和一个当蚁力神养户的朋友聊了一会，他的心情比我差多了，可以说他都要疯了！听他说话显的非常激动。他真是一个什么家当都没有的人，他母亲在他小时候就没了，父亲常年有病，活着时候政府还给他家办了个“特困”三年前他父亲也没了，“特困”待遇也没了。随后住的平房也动迁了，好象政府是给了八万多块钱，也不够买个房子的。后来又找了个离过婚的女人处对象，一直和对象到处租房子住。他对象当售货员，女人工作还好找点，要学历没学历要长相没长相的男人可就不好混了，他以前还有点前科啥地，只能找地方打个短工干两天。动迁给的那点钱除了生活用点外今年五月都投在了蚁力神上，返回的那点钱又凑合一下接着投了进去~~~~今年10月份竟然开始不返钱了！而且一托再托，转眼又托到11月21日了~~~~现在蚁力神公司动向不明对他来说简直就是折磨！这点钱在有的人眼里看虽然不多，但这是他全部家当和对未来的希望啊！这要是出点差错他以后会怎样面对生活？我真不敢想！我除了安慰他两句之外啥办法也没有，还是祝他好运吧。怎么现在这社会明目张胆的骗子这么多？？真是明目张胆的开玩，ZF睁一只眼闭一只眼任其发展壮大。。。现在蚁力神动态不明，要是再定性非法融资后辽宁不得被全国人说成骗子省啊！这社会陷阱多啊，有些人掉下去几回没事，但有的人掉下去后果可非常严重！ Today I had a chat with one friend who's an ant farmer for Yilishen, and he was an even worse mood than I was; you could say he was about to go nuts! Listening to him speak, he's obviously extremely agitated. He really is someone who truly has nothing; he lost his mother when he was still young, and his father was sick year-round, while his father was still alive the government even gave his family 'special difficulty' status, but then three years ago he lost his father too. Then the old house he lived in was relocated, I think the government gave him eighty thousand yuan, not enough to buy a new house. From there he started dating a divorced woman, and was living with her all over the place in different rented flats. She was a sales assistant, and women have an easier time finding work; for all the jobs that required higher education, there were always jobs that just went for looks; for a guy who didn't have the looks, he didn't get by so well. And he had a criminal record from somewhere, so the only thing he could find were little two-day gigs here and there. From the money he got for the relocation, except for the bit he used on living expenses, this May he put it all into Yilishen, and made do with what little he got back….then in October this year he suddenly stopped getting any back! They kept giving him the runaround, right up until November 21…..now with it not being clear where Yilishen Co. is headed, for him, is pure torture! Some people might not see that bit of money as much, it's all he has, and it's his hope for the future… if anything goes wrong with it, how's he gonna live from now on? I don't even dare imagine! Except for consoling him with a few words, there's nothing else I can do, just wish him good luck. How could there be so many brazen fraudsters in today's society?? It's just plain-out playing people, and the government just keeps one eye closed and with the other, lets these things go on…Now it's not clear where Yilishen is headed. If it gets stuck again with illegal financing, the whole country will start calling Liaoning a province of swindlers! So many pitfalls in this society…some people can fall flat a few times and still be okay. But there are others who, when they fall, face serious consequences! ‘How many ants, how much worry?' asks NetEase blogger Begging in Paradise in a Nov. 20 post: “蚁力神”不神了,王凤友不灵了.天玺集团大厦将倾.日前养殖业户最为关注最为敏感的话题莫过于此.千千万万家养殖” 黑多刺蚂蚁”的人们最为担心的事终于发生了. … 此时此刻同情是没有丝毫作用的,我只能在心底深深地那些” 黑多刺蚂蚁”的养殖业户,遭遇了这很残酷的事实.几多蚂蚁,基多愁!我感同身受,天庸讳言,这是个难以忍受的煎熬的时段. …. 近日耳闻王凤友的”天玺集团”资金运作出现危机时,在大家的猜测与冷静的分析中得出结论,恐怕每天都在一堵窟窿的王凤友其实活得非常沉重,比谁都累!一个人如果过着拆东墙补西墙的日子,那简直是一种无情而可怕的生活. … 我们拭目以待,静看事态的发展 “Ant Power” has lost its power, and [Yilishen CEO] Wang Fengyou has lost his groove. Tianxi Group Tower is about to fall. And for the past few days, the ant farmers have been paying attention to nothing but this. What tens of thousands of black ant farmers most feared has now finally happened. … At this point in time, sympathy is of absolutely no use to me, I can only look deep inside myself….those black ant farmers have been met with a most cruel truth. How many ants? How much worry! I fully sympathize, and there's no need to keep silent. This is a hard, tormenting moment to endure. … Recently the word has been that Wang Fengyou's “Tianxi Group” has been running on dangerously low funds, and the conclusion of people's speculation and calm analysis has led them to fear daily that Wang Fengyou is in the hole, and actually getting by with the utmost difficulty, more exhausted than anyone! Anyone who only gets by by tearing the bricks off the east wall just to build the west wall, simply must have a cold and terrible life. … We can only wait and see what happens, and calmly watch how the situation develops. Not gently, judging from the photos NetEase blogger Diadora posted on the evening of Nov. 20: 蚁力神养户围堵市委,省委,声势浩大!有上万之众.来自本溪\辽阳\大连\鞍山等地.现省委已调派大量的防爆警察,周边的警力均已出动!!! Nov. 22
	zpzwrote: NetEase blogger ‘Heartbreak leaves no scars' relates to the incident through a November 18 post recounting a phone call with a friend that lost nearly all of her savings, ‘hurt is a kind of unspeakable pain': 今天，姐打来电话，声音很是无力与沮丧。她告诉我‘小妹，蚁力神完了，姐的希望破灭了！我手握听筒，竟一时语噻。我找不到更动听的语言来安慰姐姐。面对姐二，三十万的投资转瞬间即将成为泡影的现实，我那几句华丽，肤浅的劝慰，是不是太显苍白无力？要知道，对于一个依靠月工资收入的普通人家，一点一滴的积蓄都是从牙缝省下来的，那是姐几十年的心血啊！孤注一掷之后，有多宽的心态，才能再付之东流时，笑着说我无所谓？我体会得到姐的心情，但我却望尘莫及，时至今日，我唯有在心里对姐说；姐，挺住！不管你即将面对的是怎样的一种结局，也许这几十万血本无归，也许你的损失会最大限度的降低，这已经都不重要。看看你拥有的现在，最起码儿女都已成人，不用你操心；最起码你跟姐夫加起来的退休金也有四千来块；最起码你们已年届六旬，却还身子骨硬朗！。。。。。。姐，看看你身边可以顺手拈来的幸福，那些身外之物还重要吗？ One of my sisters gave me a call today, and her voice was really weak and gloomy. She said to me, ‘lil' sis, Yilishen is done in for, your sis' hopes have been smashed! I gripped the receiver with my hand and held back a sigh. I couldn't find anything pleasant to say to comfort sis. Faced with the reality of sis' two or three hundred thousand going down the drain just like that, my few flowery, superficial words of consolation, could they have sounded too limp, too weak? Because you know, for a normal person just getting by on a monthly wage, every little bit put away is like a tooth being pulled out. That was ten years of my sis' pain and effort! When you place all your money on one bet, how broad-minded would you need to be, when it all went down the drain, to just laugh and say you didn't care? I can feel what sis is feeling right now, but then I have nothing to compare it to. Until now, the only thing I can think of to say to her is: Sis, pull through! No matter what sort of ending you wind up left faced with, whether those several hundred thousand of your hard-earned yuan never come back, or if your losses will mostly be minimized, none of that is important now. Look at what you have now, at least your children have already grown up, you don't need to worry about them; at least your pension combined with your husband's will be four thousand yuan a month; at least the two of you are already over sixty, and still going strong!……..sis, look around you at all the happiness within your reach, and do those worldly possessions still seem important? Nov. 22

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